[OpenWireless Tech] A small question about tracking

[Natanael]

How does that happen without VPN?
Den 6 nov 2012 12:30 skrev "Todd" <Todd at chiwifi.net>:

> On 11/06/2012 05:20 AM, "Andy Green (林安廸)" wrote:
> > On 11/06/12 18:53, the mail apparently from Christian Huldt included:
> >>
> >> 2012-11-06 kl. 11:10 skrev Todd:
> >>
> >>> One thing note here is, most of the responses have been solely about
> >>> "protecting the router owner" via throwing on varying levels of VPN. As
> >>> far as I can tell,  the average member of this list is more worried
> >>> about their continued ability to pirate then providing ubiquitous wifi
> >>> which is very disheartening.
> >>
> >> I beg to disagree, IMHO this is about being able to convince your
> >> neighbor that
> >> he/she can also share wifi without any immediate risks - which there
> >> are, at least in Germany.
> >
> > Exactly, same in UK.
> >
> > Since the VPN story includes trying to get the client's home AP as the
> > server, going out on the internet with the IP in the client's name,
> > this has nothing whatsoever to do with 'piracy'.
> >
> > You can see for yourself that the very few open personal APs left seem
> > to mainly be so by accident (SSID of "Netgear", etc), at least where I
> > live and travel your average router owner "knows" that unencrypted is
> > dangerous even if he couldn't explain it in terms of his traffic being
> > sniffable, he could tell you it's dangerous due to possibility of
> > other people exploiting it to his detriment.
> >
> > To get people to make the other decision, to offer anonymous access on
> > their IP again, there has to be a story that definitively counters
> > this perception, a reason why something changed and it is now safe to
> > do so, and we might see (VPN-only) open APs become normal again.
> >
> > The only story I know that would convince me is VPN-only, since it
> > directly counters the "but the bad guy might use my IP" concern.
> >
> > -Andy
> >
>
>
> The "bad guy might use my IP" argument is completely irrelevant if the
> IPs are not being assigned by the large ISP (IE.. comcast, att, verizon,
> etc..)
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