[OpenWireless Tech] A small question about tracking

[Todd]

On 11/06/2012 05:20 AM, "Andy Green (林安廸)" wrote:
> On 11/06/12 18:53, the mail apparently from Christian Huldt included:
>>
>> 2012-11-06 kl. 11:10 skrev Todd:
>>
>>> One thing note here is, most of the responses have been solely about
>>> "protecting the router owner" via throwing on varying levels of VPN. As
>>> far as I can tell,  the average member of this list is more worried
>>> about their continued ability to pirate then providing ubiquitous wifi
>>> which is very disheartening.
>>
>> I beg to disagree, IMHO this is about being able to convince your
>> neighbor that
>> he/she can also share wifi without any immediate risks - which there
>> are, at least in Germany.
>
> Exactly, same in UK.
>
> Since the VPN story includes trying to get the client's home AP as the
> server, going out on the internet with the IP in the client's name,
> this has nothing whatsoever to do with 'piracy'.
>
> You can see for yourself that the very few open personal APs left seem
> to mainly be so by accident (SSID of "Netgear", etc), at least where I
> live and travel your average router owner "knows" that unencrypted is
> dangerous even if he couldn't explain it in terms of his traffic being
> sniffable, he could tell you it's dangerous due to possibility of
> other people exploiting it to his detriment.
>
> To get people to make the other decision, to offer anonymous access on
> their IP again, there has to be a story that definitively counters
> this perception, a reason why something changed and it is now safe to
> do so, and we might see (VPN-only) open APs become normal again.
>
> The only story I know that would convince me is VPN-only, since it
> directly counters the "but the bad guy might use my IP" concern.
>
> -Andy
>


The "bad guy might use my IP" argument is completely irrelevant if the
IPs are not being assigned by the large ISP (IE.. comcast, att, verizon,
etc..)