[OpenWireless Tech] A small question about tracking

"Andy Green (林安廸)" andy at warmcat.com
Tue Nov 6 03:20:17 PST 2012


On 11/06/12 18:53, the mail apparently from Christian Huldt included:
>
> 2012-11-06 kl. 11:10 skrev Todd:
>
>> One thing note here is, most of the responses have been solely about
>> "protecting the router owner" via throwing on varying levels of VPN. As
>> far as I can tell,  the average member of this list is more worried
>> about their continued ability to pirate then providing ubiquitous wifi
>> which is very disheartening.
>
> I beg to disagree, IMHO this is about being able to convince your neighbor that
> he/she can also share wifi without any immediate risks - which there are, at least in Germany.

Exactly, same in UK.

Since the VPN story includes trying to get the client's home AP as the 
server, going out on the internet with the IP in the client's name, this 
has nothing whatsoever to do with 'piracy'.

You can see for yourself that the very few open personal APs left seem 
to mainly be so by accident (SSID of "Netgear", etc), at least where I 
live and travel your average router owner "knows" that unencrypted is 
dangerous even if he couldn't explain it in terms of his traffic being 
sniffable, he could tell you it's dangerous due to possibility of other 
people exploiting it to his detriment.

To get people to make the other decision, to offer anonymous access on 
their IP again, there has to be a story that definitively counters this 
perception, a reason why something changed and it is now safe to do so, 
and we might see (VPN-only) open APs become normal again.

The only story I know that would convince me is VPN-only, since it 
directly counters the "but the bad guy might use my IP" concern.

-Andy




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