[OpenWireless Tech] The police came to the AP owner first, then sniffed the air to find real culprit​​

Natanael natanael.l at gmail.com
Thu Nov 29 14:49:08 PST 2012


But laws is NOT the biggest issue in many cases.

I will keep asking for a solution with seamless support for VPN:s simply
for protecting myself against WiFi MiTM:s and rouge routers.


2012/11/29 David Fine <dfine at sonic.net>

>  if we want this project to have any chance of success, we have to offer
>> people alternatives as part of our solution that do not require that they
>> run a completely open network.
>>
> This is the part I disagree with. The way to grow is to remove barriers to
> entry. To the extent that this is a movement, the main thrust is to make
> open wireless a viable option. Plenty of people are willing to run open
> hotspots if it's safe and uncomplicated. The time to proliferate open wifi
> is now, before things get locked down any further. In the United States, we
> are morally, ethically, and _legally_ in the right.
> http://torrentfreak.com/judge-**an-ip-address-doesnt-identify-**
> a-person-120503/<http://torrentfreak.com/judge-an-ip-address-doesnt-identify-a-person-120503/>
> People in Germany will have to route around their laws for a while, that
> sucks. But that's not the problem this project should focus on right now.
> --DF
>
>
>  Those who wish to tunnel through a VPN may do so. But the movement as a
>>> whole seeks to normalize open wireless both socially and legally. We must
>>> push back against antisocial laws and support people who fall victim to
>>> them.
>>>
>> If you can't get anyone to follow you, then it doesn't matter whether you
>> are morally or ethically "in the right" or not.
>>
>> For practical reasons, if we want this project to have any chance of
>> success, we have to offer people alternatives as part of our solution that
>> do not require that they run a completely open network.
>>
>> Once we get enough users who are members of the project and offering at
>> least one of the solutions we can help them provide, then we will have a
>> stronger voice that we can use to make calls for changes in the laws.
>>  Until then, we're just a lone voice, screaming into the frankenhurricane.
>>
>> --
>> Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
>> LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu>
>>
>>
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