[OpenWireless Tech] The police came to the AP owner first, then sniffed the air to find real culprit​​

[Natanael]

So you don't care if you put Ethiopians at risk?

Let's make this usable for everybody. Unfortunately VPN:s are the only
thing that assures my traffic is safe from the router owner. So let's not
ignore something so important but easy to avoid.

As I said before, why not let the system subscribe to lists of VPN:s, with
some free in there? Then we get high security + low threshold for those
that can follow instructions. Isn't that what we want?
Den 29 nov 2012 08:03 skrev "Russell Senior" <russell at personaltelco.net>:

> >>>>> "Brad" == Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org> writes:
>
> Russell> The legitimacy of that concern is a function of the
> Russell> jurisdiction, which you continue to conflate worldwide.
> Russell> Please begin your fear-mongering with an indication of the
> Russell> jurisdiction you are assuming, because it matters.
>
> Russell> In my jurisdiction, the US, your concern is wildly overblown,
> Russell> if constantly reinforced by FUD claims in the media.
>
> Brad> Kettle, meet pot.  You can't claim that your jurisdiction is
> Brad> universal to the entire US, any more than anyone else can claim
> Brad> their jurisdiction is universal to any other large part of the
> Brad> world.
>
> I was specifically disclaiming universality.  While it may be
> difficult and dangerous in one place, it may not be difficult and
> dangerous in another.  By constantly harping on the places it is
> difficult and dangerous, and implying that it is so everywhere, you
> scare people where it is not.  Please stop that.  If you want your
> scary stories to have any value, say where they are relevant.  I can
> tell unscary stories and say where they are relevant, and we can all
> become better educated about the topology of scaryness.
>
> This evening, someone told me about a story where Tor users (not exit
> nodes, iirc, just people using Tor) were arrested.  I asked where.  He
> didn't know.  He looked it up and told me it was Ethiopia.  Should I
> stop using Tor because I might get arrested, because someone in
> Ethiopia was arrested?
>
> That's a rhetorical question.
>
> Please, let's not scare people where it isn't scary.
>
>
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