[Manila Principles] EuroParl draft report on prevention of radicalisation and recruitment of European citizens by terrorist organisations

[gabrielle at article19.org]

Hi all 

Thanks Jeremy for the update. Same here. I also tend to agree with the proposal to open up the principles to endorsement by intermediaries. 

Best, 

G 



From: "박경신" <kyungsinpark at korea.ac.kr> 
To: "Rebecca MacKinnon" <rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com> 
Cc: manilaprinciples at eff.org 
Sent: Sunday, 18 October, 2015 10:37:22 
Subject: Re: [Manila Principles] EuroParl draft report on prevention of radicalisation and recruitment of European citizens by terrorist organisations 

+1 on all below. 

나의 iPhone에서 보냄 

2015. 10. 18. 오후 6:31 Rebecca MacKinnon < rebecca.mackinnon at gmail.com > 작성: 




Hi Jeremy, thanks for that update. There is clearly a lot of work for all of us to do… 
Bringing in industry at this point sounds like a great idea. If I can be of help with the GNI and Telco Industry Dialogue please let me know. 

Also note that the Ranking Digital Rights Corporate Accountability Index is launching on November 3rd. We’re still finalizing the report but the current draft references the Manila Principles, and intermediary liability comes up as an issue in various places in relation to how legal environments affect particular companies’ policies/practices. 

More about the launch here (including IGF day 0 and main conference workshop): 
https://rankingdigitalrights.org/2015/10/15/launching-november-3rd/ 

Discussion of how intermediary liability questions and trends factor in to the standards we’re trying to set, and advocacy we’re seeking to build around them, would be extremely welcome and appropriate. 

Cheers, 
Rebecca 



On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:22 AM, Jeremy Malcolm < jmalcolm at eff.org > wrote: 


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Manila Principles should definitely take action on this. 
“ Feels that the internet giants should be made aware of their responsibilities so that they delete illegal content as quickly as possible; ” à This will very easily translate into a general monitoring obligation. 



I agree. I met with two policy officers from the European Commission last week to discuss the Manila Principles with them. Although internally the Commission supports retaining the fundamentals of the existing regime, there is considerable political pressure to act against intermediaries who are seen as profiting from content without sharing that revenue with content providers (which means: ancillary copyright) and against intermediaries who host illegal content "actively" rather than "passively" (which means: establishing a duty of care, and making Content ID and notice-and-staydown compulsory). 

I also met separately with some industry representatives, who are of the view that we should open up the Manila Principles to endorsement by industry groups. The initiative actually came from their side, in view of the trajectory of the platform consultation and also new obligations on intermediaries at the national level in countries like Austria. I tend to support this idea, since we have already established a strong base of civil society support for the Principles, so that there is no longer any danger that this could be seen as an industry-pushed initiative. Bringing industry endorsers in now would only strengthen our case to push back against these adverse policies. 

What do others think? 

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