[OpenWireless Tech] Setting up an open network now?

[Eugene Smiley]

Sorry, It's been a busy week.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlMus47-j_kqdDJmVkwzQ0JDNFlZbGt0YkdGcC0tZkE

Explanations:

Prices - Most have some combination of 1 month, 3 month, 6 month, 1 year
payment options. The Annualized price is either the 1 year price or the
best price multiplied (6 months x 2, 12 months x 12).
VPN types - there are 5 columns for the 5 main VPN types and whether the
service can be used with them. The best services are going to be the ones
that provide OpenVPN and L2TP (for mobile devices).
Router support - Can you run a router based client?
# of connections - Most companies only allow one device to be used at a
time which is useless if you have a desktop, PC, laptop, phone and/or
tablet. 1+1 means 1 Openvpn connection and 1 PPTP.
Logs - If they take privacy serious they don't log. Several companies on
the list have been reported to turn logs over upon request.
P2P - If a user downloads content via P2P, are we at risk of having our
account terminated, potentially losing 12 months of payment?


Servers/Countries/Exits - Incomplete. Does the VPN they have exit nodes in
certain countries? Good for watching BBC, etc.


On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Java Nut <javanut20 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Thanks all for your responses.
>
>
> >This is easier said than done. MAC address filtering is easily bypassed.
>
> >You'd have to have actual user accounts and maintain a radius server or
>
> >something like that to have that level of control.
>
>
> This is why I was asking "To what extent is it necessary that a small time
> network operator be prepared to implement a termination policy? Is it OK to
> just say I have a termination policy, but not be prepared to implement it?"
>
>
> >If you are going to promote OpenWireless and potentially redirct users to
>
> >the OpenWireless site via Captive Portal, password protecting
>
> >the connection makes no sense. It's like a business saying, "We are open,
> but
>
> >you have to have a key to come in."
>
>
> No, I would not use the Open Wireless site if I configure a password for
> their router. In that case, they would not be participating in the open
> wireless movement but doing something else. The point of that question was
> whether it would be better to do a password (and post it in the units for
> the guests) or actually join the open wireless movement for this scenario
> and to consider the relative risks and merits of either approach. Now that
> I cleared this up, I hope others can comment on those issues.
>
>
> >Should I use a password to keep others on the neighborhood hillside from
> accessing
>
> >the network, or am I better off to leave it completely open when it comes
> to concerns
>
> >about legal risk? This is a trade off -- If completely open, there are
> more people in
>
> >the pool of potential suspects and more room for plausible deniablity,
> but also greater
>
> >risk someone would actually do something bad.  Which way would be better
> as far as
>
> >controlling the risk of police taking condo-owner computers for
> investigating nefarious
>
> >activity done on the network by abusers? Of course if I go with VPN, this
> question would
>
> >become moot, one could let everyone on the local hillside on safely then.
>
>
> >Since you are providing for a group of users you are less likely to have
>
> >the Police busting down everyone's door. You are more likely to have them
>
> >busting the door down of the one person the ISP account is registered to
>
>
> That is the risk I am talking about, through the registration of the ISP
> account.
>
>
>
> >and if it is a business class internet service and registered to a
> business
>
> >name, like Condo X broadband Coop, you might avoid action all together
> and
>
> >just get a complaint notice. Can you imagine a police raid on a
> McDonald's
>
> >or Starbucks?
>
>
> Yes, the internet account (which is not yet shared with anyone over wifi)
> is registered in the name of the condo association with a local wireless
> ISP. The local WISP does not seem to distinguish between residential and
> business service and does not appear to ban the sharing of the connection
> in its terms of service. They asked for address and phone number to
> register the account. The manager of the condo association gave the local
> property address and a toll free number that is billed on a home telephone
> bill of one of the unit owners, who is volunteering a toll free number for
> the place. (The ring-to destination of that toll free number is directed to
> the manager's home phone off site.) So it seems the police mistargetting
> risk applies to the manager, the unit owner volunteering the toll free
> number, and property location itself (which has just few condo units).
>
>
> >I have a Google Spreadsheet of many of the popular VPN services I
>
> >researched. Trying to compare apples to apples is quite a challenge in
> that
>
> >market. There are companies I wonder how they are in business considering
>
> >how complicated their pricing structure is. If anyone is interested in
> it,
>
> >let me know.
>
>
> Please do share your information. I had the impression these services
> would be a monthly fee, perhaps around $10.00 per month from the few I had
> clicked on. I am curious, if anyone here recommends any over the other and
> why.
>
>
> >We use NoCatAuth, which amazingly fits on 8meg flash devices with OpenWrt.
>
>
> Thanks. I am interested in also hearing about other's technical solutions
> for the splash page.
>
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