[SSL Observatory] Perspectives on Convergence of EFF, EPIC, SSL, TOR, NSA, ET CETERA

Ralph Holz holz at net.in.tum.de
Mon Nov 7 14:27:37 PST 2011


Hi,

>> The 650 number came from the number of distinct values for the "Organization"
>> field in the DN.  We saw more than 1500 CA certificates, and around 1200
>> DNs.
> 
> That's big. I hadn't previously read that "650" was an already
> stripped-down value.

Ah. That clears that up. Well done. It should also address Phillip's
concern, at least on a "coarser" level. A question that remains is how
many "O" strings actually semantically identify the same organisation,
and how many of these CA certs have been found to issue signatures.

@Peter, did you attempt to check for similarities in the "O" or "OU"
strings?

BTW, I just had a look at the Defcon slides again - EFF do mention "651
organisations" as opposed to 1,500+ CA certs. And to be clear, roughly
that latter number is "trustable" from the Mozilla or Windows root store.

Ralph

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