[SSL Observatory] Number of CAs

Ben Wilson ben at digicert.com
Wed Dec 7 10:56:58 PST 2011


Peter,

In an earlier post you wrote that the number "650+" for separate CAs came
from the number of distinct values for the "Organization" field in the DN
(out of more than 1500 CA certificates and 1200 DNs).  Many of us in the CA
industry believe-from a purely objective standpoint-that the threat surface
in need of attention is smaller.  Is anyone else besides a few of us CAs
interested in analyzing this same general area (number of CAs) with
different criteria in mind?  If the PKI hierarchies involved and physical
location of CA keys were considered, then different conclusions could be
made.  For instance, what would the map look like if the DFN-Verien root
were removed?  It's just that the number "650" is now being used regularly
in various venues to argue that the problem is that there are too many weak
links-but while there may be a statistical correlation (the more cars there
are, the more likely you are to get into an accident), the large number
alone does not lead directly to the conclusions being made.  As someone
mentioned to me recently, it's just a number, but what it connotes might be
something more and statistics and visual representations support the case
one tries to make.  All I am saying is that a number alone only tells us
"how many" - it doesn't tell us anything about "good" or "bad."  In other
words, a purely quantitative analysis without corresponding qualitative
criteria brings about a different result and leads to a different conclusion
than what course of action might be best.  Just some thoughts.

Ben

 

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