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<p><font face="Verdana">Bill</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">I agree that extant international law as
framed for instance in the telecom annex could possibly be used
to seek free global flow of data.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Also that it is indeed urgently needed to
undertake categories classification in this area -- diff.
between info and data, between various kinds of data, and so on.
And when you say these discussions are currently blocked, I
understand you mean at the WTO -- where they are blocked by
developing countries, and not at the general global IG policy
making space, as I would take it to be, where the very
development of necessary institutions is blocked by developed
countries, and associated stakeholder groups.</font></p>
<p><font face="Verdana">Yes, I want global discussions and norms to
clarify classifications in this area; that, among many other
Internet/ digital policies issues, is an urgent global imperative.
But I want it first, and primarily, done not at a trade dealing
making forum, but at an appropriate global policy institution
that takes an overall social, political and cultural view of the
subject along with an economic one. <br>
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<p><font face="Verdana">Trade deals "economize" issues, and things
are worked out there as bargains and trade-offs - they would
first instance want to see health and education as primairly
commercial services, while we want them first to be seen</font>
like WHO and UNESCO would respectively see them.</p>
<p>Interestingly, Nick Ashton, who I am sure is on this list, argued
recently on the ISOC list that "equity" is not an objective of
trade talks, "prosperity" is. I do not want a forum that does not
have "equity" as one of its key objectives, apart from others, to
primarily be making digital society/ economy classifications and
conceptual frameworks. That is why these discussions are "blocked"
at the WTO. <br>
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<p>parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 10 August 2017 02:54 PM,
William Drake wrote:<br>
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your references they provide useful background.
However, my short answer to your response is; these
agreements are decades old, and data economy is what
4-5 years in the making yet.</span></div>
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Ok, I was just responding to your statement that trade
agreements do not deal with free flow of information. They
do, and they’re still legally binding international law
(which you usually like, ja? :-), and via the tech
neutrality principle and dispute resolution cases could very
well apply to the data you have in mind, e.g. the telecom
annex language speak of movement of information but was a
build out from the recent transborder data flow debate, and
the scheduled commitments mentioned do refer to types of
services that are very much involved in moving and
processing data today. In fact there’s a pretty good case
to be made that forced localization may violate those
commitments, if anyone ever gets the backbone to test this
in the DSM. Luckily I don’t believe anyone will challenge
GDPR etc. </div>
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<div>Anyway, so really what we’re into here is the
classification fight, which is hotly contested and not
straightforward. Your position I guess is that contemporary
platform services etc. (just a portion of CBDF) are not
entailed by the extant rules. Would you agree then that
these issues need to be clarified? That’s part of the
discussion that’s been blocked.</div>
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<div>Best</div>
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<div>Bill</div>
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!important;" class=""> Terms like information and data
have taken very different meanings in what was
negotiated at that time, and what is being talked
about right now. Information in these earlier
documents is largely private, uncontested about its
ownership, and a subsidiary resource to whatever are
the main businesses. Today, a big issue is data
collected from people, whose ownership and protections
are contested, and data (and the digital intelligence
derived from it) is the almost the most important
resource around. So, it is different now. Which is why
there are currently big issues around the "free flow
of data" part in global trade forums. You mentioned
India's position, I think even they are ambivalent
although their "global back-office" IT business and
the emerging strength in "software as a service"
sector requires that data flows are not required.
However, in all these cases the concerned data is
clearly of the concerned principal enterprise (which
either outsources IT based operations, or subscribed
to SaaS services) which is a very different category
form transporting public data collected over various
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quote from yesterday's newspaper. Patil was the
official data scientist to the Obama's White House.</span><br
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style="font-size: 13pt;" class="" size="4">Mr.
Patil responded by saying that there is a
darker force, as there are companies which
are calculating and sitting on data that one
never gave them the right to capture. These
include satellite images, copying records of
the court cases and they are selling it to a
creditor, or somebody else and one has no
recourse and ability to know that the data
was moved, he said. “This is where I would
love to be a very strong policy. India has a
great opportunity to learn from things that
we didn't do correctly,” said Mr. Patil.</font></font></font></p>
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same report, Nandan Nilekani, a founder of India's
most famous IT company Infosys said;</span><br
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Nilekani agreed with the need for policy and
gave the example of increasing amount of
data and how it is being aggregated in areas
like platforms which is actually a big risk.
“You end up with data monopoly,” he said. “I
am deeply concerned that data is going to
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look to you like talks about some straight forward
free flow of information? Not to me. It is much more
complex, and different from traditional notions of
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<div class="">I gather this group will not be able to
say anything on a consensus basis regarding CBDF, so
ok. But I’d still like to understand how you’re
interpreting existing international law.</div>
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class="" face="Verdana">Can we work on
the doc without the preamble part, with
which my organisation may have many
issues?</font></p>
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class="" face="Verdana">There are two
main ones. One with the sentence "</font><b
id="docs-internal-guid-e5cea2fe-c51e-10b0-a6fe-0d62caba0d3d" class=""
style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Source Code Pro'; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">International trade agreements that support the free flow of information across the Internet...... </span></b><b
id="docs-internal-guid-e5cea2fe-c520-d076-520e-3577d399b54c" class=""
style="font-weight: normal;"><span class="" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Source Code Pro'; color: rgb(66, 66, 66); background-color: transparent; font-weight: 400; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">can assist member countries to harness the potential of the Internet to promote social and economic development for all."</span></b></p>
I am sure you know the problem that trade
justice activists have with this.... Trade
agreements do not deal with "free flow of
information", if anything they deal with
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<div class="">The GATS Telecom Annex commits all
signatories as follows: "Each Member shall
ensure that service suppliers of any other
Member may use public
telecommunications transport networks and
services for the movement of information within
and across borders, including for
intra-corporate communications of such service
suppliers, and for access
to information contained in data bases or
otherwise stored in machine-readable form in
the territory of any Member.” Moreover, most
countries made fairly unlimited commitments
during the Uruguay Round on Computer and Related
Services (CPC 84) except on Mode 4. That
includes e.g. software, programming, data
processing, database etc. services. (FWIW, in
the Doha Round India has advocated full market
access and national treatment commitments in the
sector, including of course Mode 4). UR
commitments were also pretty strong on the
relevant Telecom Services (CPC 75) including
e.g. online information and data base retrieval,
on-line information and/or data processing
(incl. transaction processing), etc. TPP 11 is
of course more expansive and specific, including
re: data. So what kinds of “information” flow
do you think is excluded from trade agreements?</div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class="">The
two are not identical .... Free flow of
information globally may perhaps be a
subject dealt in frameworks like New World
Information and Communication Order (NWICO,
that piece of history!), it could be about
media, even about social media and networks,
but that is not at the core of digital
issues at trade talks. The latter deal not
with information flows but with data flows--
as an economic resource, as one of the most
important economic resources. And speaking
about, rather promoting, "free global flow
of data" in an unqualified manner is not
acceptable. It speaks to a certain political
economy of data and digital economy... you
sure know this stuff.<span
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Second issue is with promotion of so called
"multi-stakeholder governance" for global
trade negotiations. We have really never
been able to understand what exactly this
term means, and you know this well too, have
issues with how many people and groups
employ it in the IG space. We do not look
forward, for instance, to promote models in
trade negotiations where big business has a
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 09
August 2017 03:31 AM, Jeremy Malcolm
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cite="mid:a960bf05-416b-4df9-204f-2ed892ba951c@eff.org"
class="">As we look forward to the
upcoming IGF in December, I am following
up (finally) about one of the outputs that
we agreed to work towards for presentation
at the inaugural meeting of the Dynamic
Coalition on Trade and the Internet. As
explained in my original message, a small
working group has put together a document,
which is now ready for comments from this
broader group. You can find it below:<br
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cu2p-gUdAUbPJrHysjWAFQ0SM-CKWabf22D6PGXAgxo/edit#"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Cu2p-gUdAUbPJrHysjWAFQ0SM-CKWabf22D6PGXAgxo/edit#</a><br
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It remains just a draft, and I would like
to invite all of you to express any
comments that you may have on it, either
by adding them in the text, or by
following up to this message. Ideally,
this should be a document that all
participants in the Dynamic Coalition can
endorse—and I don't think anyone should
have trouble in doing so, since it
restates principles that I suspect we all
share, and references many familiar
sources.<br class="">
<br class="">
Please review the document this month so
that, if possible, we can iron out any
wrinkles and have a near-final document
ready for presentation as an output of our
Dynamic Coalition at its inaugural meeting
in December.<br class="">
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12:21 pm, Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br
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class="">Dear all,<br class="">
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Today my organization the EFF has
launched an advertising campaign around
trade transparency reforms, which I
would like to propose as a starting
point for a document that this Dynamic
Coalition could produce as an output
this year.<br class="">
<br class="">
The advertisements can be seen in
POLITICO's Morning Trade newsletter at<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-trade/2017/05/nafta-notification-whats-happening-and-when-220315"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-trade/2017/05/nafta-notification-whats-happening-and-when-220315</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>(you
might need to disable your ad blocker to
see the banners, but there are also text
messages in the middle and at the end of
the newsletter). The ads link to this
page on EFF's website which summarizes
five recommendations, and the rationales
for these:<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.eff.org/trade"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.eff.org/trade</a>.<br
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The campaign is targetted at U.S. trade
policymakers and is hence very
U.S.-centric (even to the point of
sounding a little jingoistic), and a
couple of the recommendations are
specific to the U.S. trade advisory
process. Nevertheless, I believe that
the core concepts should find broad
agreement amongst members of this
Dynamic Coalition and that we ought to
be able to fashion a consensus document
that at least finds inspiration from the
five recommendations made here.<br
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I won't repeat the complete rationales
for the recommendations here because you
can read them for yourselves at<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.eff.org/trade"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.eff.org/trade</a>,
but the headlines are:<br class="">
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<li class="">Publish U.S. textual
proposals on rules in ongoing
international trade negotiations</li>
<li class="">Publish consolidated
texts after each round of ongoing
negotiations</li>
<li class="">Appoint a "transparency
officer" who does not have
structural conflicts of interest in
promoting transparency at the agency</li>
<li class="">Open up textual proposals
to a notice and comment and public
hearing process</li>
<li class="">Make Trade Advisory
Committees more broadly inclusive<br
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</li>
</ol>
One of the items in this Dynamic
Coalition's 2017 action plan is "To
develop a multi-stakeholder approach to
facilitating the transparency and
inclusiveness in international trade
negotiations and the domestic
consultation processes". Although
that's open-ended, it could include the
development of a consensus document
containing a set of principles that
generalises from the above five
recommendations, and that's what I'm
proposing. At this point, I am asking
for your feedback on the idea.<br
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<br class="">
If there is broad agreement on the idea,
the next step would be to form a
drafting subcommittee that would propose
a strawman text for further discussion
by the full Dynamic Coalition. If you
support the idea of us developing such a
document, are you also interested in
being part of the drafting subcommittee?<br
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<br class="">
Thanks and I look forward to hearing
your thoughts on the above.<br class="">
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Tel: 415.436.9333 ext 161
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