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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">Bill: Thank you.
That advice makes a lot of sense to me.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">All the best,</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">Susan </font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2017 2:35 AM, William Drake
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<div class="">Thanks Jeremy. Just a few thoughts further to the
below:</div>
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<div class="">*All discussions and decisions should be done
on-list in a transparent and inclusive manner, that’s the strong
expectation/requirement for how Dynamic Coalitions are to work.
We have 30+ people on the list and so far messages from about 3
people.</div>
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<div class="">*The people listed as Volunteered and the one
somehow already listed as Invited are largely civil society.
The MAG takes very seriously geo/gender/stakeholdergroup/and
intellectual-political diversity, so we have to populate the
thing accordingly. And obviously, speaker choices should be
matched to the agenda and the skill sets needs.</div>
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<div class="">*On substance, I guess my concerns with the original
text is that is blurs the lines between a) what has been floated
(generally without broad support yet) in the WTO’s e-commerce
work program, b) what is likely to be formally proposed and
agreed for the WTO Ministerial meeting, and c) what has been
proposed by certain parties in some of the mega-regionals. Not
only might this look odd to the trade community, but it would be
awkward if we’re meeting a week after the Ministerial and
talking about a bunch of stuff that didn’t happen there rather
than what did. So my thought was that we either should focus on
the Ministerial, decoding its inclusions and exclusions for a
IG-oriented audience that probably is not all following WTO
happenings (and there will in fact be enough to talk about), or
we should address the mega-regionals where (due to negotiating
group composition etc) some of the specific items we flagged
could get more play. The problems with the latter are that a)
the pace and prospects of the mega-regionals are highly variable
and the situation may not be clear in December, and b) there
were several workshops last year on the megas, so focusing on
them again is sort of like saying we just want to redo and
update. So my personal preference would be to focus on the
Ministerial outcomes and their implications for work in the WTO
over the next couple years. This would make us more relevant to
the WTO process which is the most institutionalized, and also
would draw us further toward the whole roiling debate about
developing country interests regarding digital trade, which
might offer the possibility of some alliance building. If we
went this route, we could also loop in the work going on in
UNCTAD, which has a range of Internet-related trade initiatives
underway and would seem a good partner for this.</div>
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<div class="">But that’s just one view, and if the group prefers a
more diffuse approach that is less tightly coupled to current
negotiations, ok.</div>
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<div class="">In any event we need to hear from more people on
list and move toward a consensus quickly as the submission
deadline is Wednesday. Bear in mind too the new MAG’s form has
gotten more complicated, so we have to have detailed answer to
multiple questions (remote participation is key) and establish
digital profiles with bios for each speaker etc. So there’s a
couple hours of busy work to be done by the submitters after we
settle on the plan.</div>
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<div class="">On Apr 28, 2017, at 20:55, Jeremy Malcolm <<a
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<div class=""> Hello all,<br class="">
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I am pasting below the latest version of the IGF
workshop proposal that several of you have expressed
interest in supporting. Because we only have a few more
days to finalize the proposal, your comments and
suggestions are now urgently needed.<br class="">
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All of the panelists now listed as volunteering have
been confirmed—but probably we shouldn't include all of
them on the panel, which is rather CS-heavy. Any
suggestions about how we could have a more balanced
panel—including other people (not civil society) to
propose, and perhaps some panelists with different
views?<br class="">
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Bill Drake has suggested we should tweak the proposal to
do EITHER one of two things: 1. De-emphasize the
prospect of the Internet governance issues that we
mention being taken up at the WTO, which he judges as
unlikely, and instead to emphasize the fact that these
issues are on the agenda for mega-regional agreements
and new bilaterals. 2. OR else refocus the session on
what is actually more likely to come out of the WTO
Ministerial in Buenos Aires, namely just extending the
customs duties moratorium, trade facilitation,
e-commerce for development, and a loose commitment to
talk about future issues.<br class="">
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Does anyone else have views on Bill's suggestion? If
anyone thinks changes to the proposal are needed, please
propose specific wording.<br class="">
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With whatever feedback we have by then, I'll be
finalizing and submitting this proposal by Wednesday.
So I'll be depending on you between now and then to
ensure that it's in the best shape it can be.<br
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Here's the current text, also found at <a
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href="https://opendigital.trade/projects/dc-trade/wiki/IGF_Workshop_2017">https://opendigital.trade/projects/dc-trade/wiki/IGF_Workshop_2017</a>:<br
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<h2 class="">Title: Engaging with the E-commerce Trade
Agenda</h2>
<p class="">The World Trade Organisation
(WTO) Ministerial Conference takes place from 11 to 14
December 2017, just one week prior to the IGF. Key
member states are advocating that the Ministerial
Conference should approve additional substantive work
on e-commerce, perhaps even new norm-setting
measures. The IGF will be the first opportunity that
stakeholders have to prepare a plan of action in
response to whatever decision is taken, and to connect
the dots between the WTO work programme and other
relevant sources of expertise from the broader
Internet governance community.</p>
<p class="">Possible topics already proposed by certain
delegations for the WTO's work program include
encryption, data localisation, source code disclosure
mandates, and intermediary liability rules. All of
these areas have substantial intersections with
Internet governance policies on cybersecurity, privacy
and data protection, and freedom of expression. Yet
the WTO, being relatively new to these topics, lacks
deep expertise in many of them, and does not possess
strong connections with all of the stakeholders with
non-trade perspectives to offer on the impacts of
rulemaking in this areas.</p>
<p class="">This workshop will facilitate the exchange
of information among interested stakeholders and from
external communities that also have an interest or
expertise to offer in the development of
Internet-related global trade rules. Even in the event
that the WTO does not decide to expand its existing
work programme on e-commerce, this workshop will still
be relevant as many of the same issues are also being
dealt with in other trade negotiations and fora,
including the Trade in Services Agreement (TISA), the
North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and the
Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP).</p>
<p class="">To facilitate a discussion about
Internet-related global trade rules in general, we
will use the following policy issues to engender
debate:</p>
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<li class="">Encryption</li>
<li class="">Data localization</li>
<li class="">Intermediary liability</li>
<li class="">Big data (social, economic, and political
dimensions)</li>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" name="Co-sponsors" class=""></a><span
class=""></span>
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<li class="">Electronic Frontier Foundation (USA,
civil society)</li>
<li class="">IT for Change (India, civil society)</li>
<li class="">Internet Infrastructure Coalition (USA,
private sector)</li>
<li class="">Diplo Foundation (Malta, academic
community)</li>
<li class="">Public Citizen (USA, civil society)</li>
</ul>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" name="Personnel" class=""></a><span
class=""></span>
<h2 class="">Personnel</h2>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" name="Volunteered" class=""></a><span
class=""></span>
<h3 class="">Volunteered</h3>
<ul class="">
<li class="">William Drake (University of Zurich,
USA/Switzerland, academic community)</li>
<li class="">Susan Aaronson (George Washington
University, USA, academic community)</li>
<li class="">David Snead (Internet Infrastructure
Coalition, USA, business)</li>
<li class="">Marília Maciel (Diplo Foundation, Brazil,
academic community)</li>
<li class="">Gus Rossi (Public Knowledge, USA, civil
society)</li>
<li class="">Maryant Fernandez (EDRi, Spain/Belgium,
civil society)</li>
<li class="">Burcu Kilic (Public Citizen, USA, civil
society)</li>
<li class="">Estelle Massé (Access Now, Belgium, civil
society)</li>
<li class="">Jean-Baptiste Velut (Université Sorbonne
Nouvelle Paris 3, France, academic community)</li>
<li class="">Aileen Kwa (South Centre, inter gov
organisation)</li>
</ul>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" name="Invited" class=""></a><span
class=""></span>
<h3 class="">Invited</h3>
<ul class="">
<li class="">Sanya Reid Smith (Third World Network,
civil society)</li>
</ul>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="Remote-moderator-or-rapporteur" class=""></a><span
class=""></span>
<h3 class="">Remote moderator or rapporteur</h3>
<ul class="">
<li class="">Renata Ribeiro (Brazil, civil society)</li>
</ul>
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