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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">I have a couple
of thoughts:</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">First, the US and
other countries increasingly disagree on what is "digital
protectionism," -e.g. do data localization, privacy, server
location requirements distort trade?</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">Secondly, trade
negotiators have not figured out how to remedy digital
protectionism given that some remedies (countervailing duties,
tariffs) don't seem appropriate, we don't know how to define
injury, who is injured and how to remedy. And even then,
digital protectionist strategies as well as strategies to
remedy injurious import could not only distort trade, but
could have effects on the internet. We need to carefully examine
this issue to make sure that if trade agreements regulate the
internet, they do not undermine or restrict cross-border
information flows that underpin the Internet. <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">So, I suggest we
include some discussion of this (I am clearly biased as this
is my research). <br>
</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">Also, we don't
know what will be in NAFTA 2.0; US put forward a blue print
and then repudiated it, saying it was put forward by staffers
and not the administration. RCEP won't... China won't accept
any agreement that goes beyond border measures and IP. The
Canadians and Mexicans have said nothing re. digital trade.
So I think we need to be clear about which trade agreements
could have digital language.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook"><br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Century Schoolbook">Susan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/28/2017 2:55 PM, Jeremy Malcolm
wrote:<br>
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Hello all,<br>
<br>
I am pasting below the latest version of the IGF workshop proposal
that several of you have expressed interest in supporting.
Because we only have a few more days to finalize the proposal,
your comments and suggestions are now urgently needed.<br>
<br>
All of the panelists now listed as volunteering have been
confirmed—but probably we shouldn't include all of them on the
panel, which is rather CS-heavy. Any suggestions about how we
could have a more balanced panel—including other people (not civil
society) to propose, and perhaps some panelists with different
views?<br>
<br>
Bill Drake has suggested we should tweak the proposal to do EITHER
one of two things: 1. De-emphasize the prospect of the Internet
governance issues that we mention being taken up at the WTO, which
he judges as unlikely, and instead to emphasize the fact that
these issues are on the agenda for mega-regional agreements and
new bilaterals. 2. OR else refocus the session on what is
actually more likely to come out of the WTO Ministerial in Buenos
Aires, namely just extending the customs duties moratorium, trade
facilitation, e-commerce for development, and a loose commitment
to talk about future issues.<br>
<br>
Does anyone else have views on Bill's suggestion? If anyone
thinks changes to the proposal are needed, please propose specific
wording.<br>
<br>
With whatever feedback we have by then, I'll be finalizing and
submitting this proposal by Wednesday. So I'll be depending on
you between now and then to ensure that it's in the best shape it
can be.<br>
<br>
Here's the current text, also found at <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Title: Engaging with
the E-commerce Trade Agenda</h2>
<p style="color: rgb(106, 110, 113); font-family: "helvetica
neue", helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;
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background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-style:
initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">The World Trade
Organisation (WTO) Ministerial Conference takes place from 11 to
14 December 2017, just one week prior to the IGF. Key member
states are advocating that the Ministerial Conference should
approve additional substantive work on e-commerce, perhaps even
new norm-setting measures. The IGF will be the first opportunity
that stakeholders have to prepare a plan of action in response
to whatever decision is taken, and to connect the dots between
the WTO work programme and other relevant sources of expertise
from the broader Internet governance community.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(106, 110, 113); font-family: "helvetica
neue", helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;
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initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Possible topics
already proposed by certain delegations for the WTO's work
program include encryption, data localisation, source code
disclosure mandates, and intermediary liability rules. All of
these areas have substantial intersections with Internet
governance policies on cybersecurity, privacy and data
protection, and freedom of expression. Yet the WTO, being
relatively new to these topics, lacks deep expertise in many of
them, and does not possess strong connections with all of the
stakeholders with non-trade perspectives to offer on the impacts
of rulemaking in this areas.</p>
<p style="color: rgb(106, 110, 113); font-family: "helvetica
neue", helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;
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initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">This workshop will
facilitate the exchange of information among interested
stakeholders and from external communities that also have an
interest or expertise to offer in the development of
Internet-related global trade rules. Even in the event that the
WTO does not decide to expand its existing work programme on
e-commerce, this workshop will still be relevant as many of the
same issues are also being dealt with in other trade
negotiations and fora, including the Trade in Services Agreement
(TISA), the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and the
Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP).</p>
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initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">To facilitate a
discussion about Internet-related global trade rules in general,
we will use the following policy issues to engender debate:</p>
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<li>Encryption</li>
<li>Data localization</li>
<li>Intermediary liability</li>
<li>Big data (social, economic, and political dimensions)</li>
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community)</li>
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business)</li>
<li>Marília Maciel (Diplo Foundation, Brazil, academic
community)</li>
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